I just lost in the $1 dollar tourney on two consecutive suck outs on the river. First one was Q was K 8 and one other on the board another guy goes all in and I call. He had KJ, on the river he get's a Jack to beat me. Then next hand Q along with two cards under 10 are on the board, me and another guy both are short stack at about 450. I make him go all in, he calls. I have pair of Queens he has pocket 6's. So of course guess what comes on the River. A six, it was fun but just frustrating to lose on the River like that.

Here is the first Rivered, there was actually a hand I folded in between

PokerStars Game #415089643: Tournament #1478496, Hold'em No Limit -
Level III (25/50) - 2004/05/02 - 00:08:43 (ET)
Table '1478496 35' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: TaintedRogue (1460 in chips)
Seat 2: goobjones (2910 in chips)
Seat 3: black42 (1160 in chips)
Seat 4: JM197012 (4025 in chips)
Seat 5: JilliRain (2625 in chips)
Seat 6: slickrick73 (4025 in chips)
Seat 7: littleHOF (2325 in chips)
Seat 8: katyrix (2110 in chips)
Seat 9: CLYDE69 (985 in chips)
JM197012: posts small blind 25
JilliRain: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to goobjones [8c Kh]
slickrick73: folds
littleHOF: folds
katyrix: calls 50
CLYDE69: folds
TaintedRogue: folds
goobjones: calls 50
black42: folds
JM197012: folds
JilliRain: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kd 8s 4c]
JilliRain: bets 150
katyrix: raises 150 to 300
goobjones: raises 150 to 450
JilliRain: folds
katyrix: raises 1610 to 2060 and is all-in
goobjones: calls 1610
*** TURN *** [Kd 8s 4c] [9s]
*** RIVER *** [Kd 8s 4c 9s] [Js]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
katyrix: shows [Ks Jh] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
goobjones: shows [8c Kh] (two pair, Kings and Eights)
katyrix collected 4445 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4445 | Rake 0
Board [Kd 8s 4c 9s Js]
Seat 1: TaintedRogue folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: goobjones showed [8c Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and
Eights
Seat 3: black42 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: JM197012 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: JilliRain (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: slickrick73 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: littleHOF folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: katyrix showed [Ks Jh] and won (4445) with two pair, Kings and
Jacks
Seat 9: CLYDE69 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Here is the second that knocked me out.

Table '1478496 35' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: TaintedRogue (1460 in chips)
Seat 2: goobjones (800 in chips)
Seat 3: black42 (1160 in chips)
Seat 4: JM197012 (4000 in chips)
Seat 5: JilliRain (2400 in chips)
Seat 6: slickrick73 (3975 in chips)
Seat 7: littleHOF (2275 in chips)
Seat 8: katyrix (4445 in chips)
Seat 9: CLYDE69 (1110 in chips)
slickrick73: posts small blind 25
littleHOF: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to goobjones [Kd Qs]
katyrix: folds
CLYDE69: raises 300 to 350
TaintedRogue: folds
goobjones: calls 350
black42: folds
JM197012: folds
JilliRain: folds
slickrick73: folds
littleHOF: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qh 9d 4h]
CLYDE69: bets 300
goobjones: raises 150 to 450 and is all-in
CLYDE69: calls 150
*** TURN *** [Qh 9d 4h] [8h]
*** RIVER *** [Qh 9d 4h 8h] [6c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CLYDE69: shows [6h 6d] (three of a kind, Sixes)
goobjones: shows [Kd Qs] (a pair of Queens)
CLYDE69 collected 1675 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1675 | Rake 0
Board [Qh 9d 4h 8h 6c]
Seat 1: TaintedRogue folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: goobjones showed [Kd Qs] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 3: black42 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: JM197012 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: JilliRain (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: slickrick73 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: littleHOF (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: katyrix folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: CLYDE69 showed [6h 6d] and won (1675) with three of a kind,
Sixes

Same thing happened to me, Goob...I raised to 150 I think on the small blind with a pair of 5's....one guy calls, and it comes up 5-3-2, with two diamonds. He puts in like 150, I raise to 750, and he goes over the top all in. I call, and he has a flush draw of diamonds, which he of course catches on the River. I say I am in the right despite the card counters around here saying he had like 17 outs. I hit a set on the flop, and there were no over cards. You ask me, if it wasn't the ghetto tourney for a buck, he would have never raised to all in with that draw....not after the strength I showed on the flop and betting afterwards. No way. There was no chance of him beating me without hitting a card....and there were previously 7 other people at the table....potentially taking away some of his diamonds.

They don't call it RiverStars for nothing. We all catch the River once in a while...but get used to it. LOL

Yeah both times with the Jack he had at most 3 outs although someone else might of had one and folded. And with the sixes he only had two outs.

Mikey, when figuring these odds, you dont consider how many of his diamonds are potentially killed by folded hands. Only deal in the cards taht you have seen.